Guard Frequency Episode 128| Our Own, Personal, Brexit

Greetings Citizens and Civilians, you’re tuned to episode 128, of Guard Frequency — the best damn space sim podcast ever! This episode was recorded on Friday 15th July 2016 and released for streaming and download on Tuesday, July 19th 2016 at [Download this episode]

Lennon, Geoff and Tony are back in the hangar to bring you another entry into the galactic saga that is the Best Damn Space Sim Podcast Ever. To get us going, in this week’s Squawk Box, somebody’s interested in Jupiter’s newest moon. On the Flight Deck we see what news has landed from your favourite space-sims as we cover:

Next, we debate giving the primitives space things, and finally we tune into the Feedback Loop and let you join in on the conversation.

A Brief Announcement

Hi Cits, Civs, Captains and Commanders, Lennon here! Most of our eagle eyed (or eared) listeners will know that when it comes to attendance records amongst the hosts that the rankings are pretty clear. With his unbroken record, Geoff sits like a king on his throne, looking down on Tony coming in a close second, and then me, trailing behind a distant third. This is down to a number of factors — work moving away, me moving house, some unexpected medical issues, Pokemon Go (just kidding), this list goes on. As it’s well established that I’m the most popular host on Guard Frequency by a survey of 1 (my own mother) in order to spare the audience continual heart-break when they’re not greeted by my sultry, British tones, I have decided to take a step back from being a regular host of the show. Now, don’t read too deeply in to that — I’m still very much around and part of Guard Frequency, I’ll still be editing the show with Mikey, writing the show with Ostron, and interacting with all you lovely people on Facebook and Twitter. Yes, sorry, you’re not getting rid of me that easily. Speaking of our illustrious producer Ostron, he’ll be taking my spot in the hangar as a regular host from episode 129 onwards. I want to quickly take a moment to thank each and every listener for putting up with my butchering of the Great Murican Language, my insistence on converting hull strength and shield ratings into metric, and for generally being the Best Damn Audience a podcaster could ever ask for.

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  • Is there value in having a gameplay mechanic that sees players forcing the advancement of primitive aliens? Or is the current “leave them be or plunder them” gameplay sufficient?

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12 responses to “Guard Frequency Episode 128| Our Own, Personal, Brexit”

  1. Odin Omen Avatar

    My preference is for players to be free to interact with alien civilizations as they choose. To provide a mechanic allowing people to act like they would in real life seems appropriate and more immersive. The more immersive, the more value. Instituting a Prime Directive like in Star Trek would be fun, but being allowed to break the rules is where great storylines can begin.

  2. Druid Avatar

    An information packed show this week gentlemen.

    Ortwin: Is it just me, or does he sound like a bully used to getting his way? Granted I’ve seen very little of what he does, only a few excerpts as it were, but it sounds to me that he should stop trying to “help”.

    The Prime Directive: In a word idiotic. Like many such things it’s too all or nothing, which in general is a bad thing if you see what I did there. I think it’s a good idea, things like exploitation, and cultural contamination, which you did not touch on, are certainly concerns. But the Prime Directive does not leave room for help less advanced species with things that are beyond their ability to handle such as extreme natural disasters. For instance the TNGS episode where Data had a radio pen-pal and Picards’ reaction to it. I think not helping in that situation, which they eventually did, would have been the immoral thing to do. How to handle this in games is a bit more nebulous.

    As for Lennon leaving, I’ll miss the dulcet tones of that lovely Brittish accent but I wish him well and look forward to any cameos that may happen in the future. Osteron, I welcome you, but you have a lot to live up, or is it down to?

    Keep up the great work everyone.

    1. Druid Avatar

      Since I can’t fix the typo any other way:

      . Like many such things it’s too all or nothing, WHICH in general is a bad thing if you see what I did there.

  3. L-Wook Avatar

    You will never have the same credibility without the sweet sweet non-continental euro-tones of Lenon, ignorant sluts will run rampant. (As a Canadian I will miss those metric conversions)
    It would make sense to leave these civillations in peace… But.. We all know that won’t be fun. Your going to want to trade and barter with these dudes with all your fancy tech, and others will terrorize them because they are online dictators to be.

  4. zenoen Avatar
    zenoen – Streetroller

    He agreed to the terms of service in 2015 at least so those are the ones I’m looking at I’m using this web archive to read the terms.

    RSI agrees to use its good faith business efforts to deliver to you the pledge items and the Game on or before the estimated delivery date communicated to you on the Website. However, you acknowledge and agree that delivery as of such date is not a firm promise and may be extended by RSI since unforeseen events may extend the development and/or production time. Accordingly, you agree that any unearned portion of your Pledge shall not be refundable until and unless RSI has failed to deliver the relevant pledge items and/or the Game to you within eighteen (18) months after the estimated delivery date.

    So he does have a legal right to say that he wants a refund because they passed 18 months. Still they haven’t released Squadron 42 … that is what this is about right because that has a estimated delivery date that they have passed… Just because the pledge is for star citizen ships and items does not change the fact that the estimated date and product was Squadron 42…

    Unless he was referring to Star citizen because that doesn’t have a estimated release date. Even if it did; he does have a beta of the Persistent PU and he has had that for quite a while. Would/could you even say legally that this product bound by the same date? He was able to get 900$ back through amazon payments by saying that they were fraudulent. He was Aware of the PU and what its universe status was at the time of those purchases Nov 23, 2015. Right before Star Citizen Alpha 2.0 came out in December.

    He wanted to use ships in the Alpha of the PU and he did. The date was for SQ42 and it has been extended because they made bad estimates.

    you agree that any unearned portion of your Pledge shall not be refundable until and unless RSI has failed to deliver the relevant pledge items and/or the Game to you within eighteen (18) months after the estimated delivery date.

    Those 900$ were not for the game SC after all he already had that.
    they were for the PU and that doesn’t even have a release date tied to it and if it did we would still have the pu even though it is not feature complete.

    I agree that a 60$ Package is refundable its a game you paid for after all.
    But a Pledge for more then that was to fund development and help make the game better. Looking at the game now I think that It did help it will be completed. But What he did was buy ships for the PU then decide he didn’t want those ships so he tried to get them refunded (maybe he even decided he didn’t like flying ships anymore) either way it was a dishonest move and while i would refund his original package i wouldn’t refund the rest.

    P.S Ortwind Should of forwarded it to legal and had them at least review it before he sent it out.

    1. Justin Lowmaster Avatar

      I think Ortwin IS Legal … but he should have consulted Tony {;0p

  5. seannewboy Avatar

    Wonderful show, sorry to hear about Lenon.

    As for the CQ, i agree with odin.

  6. Rambus Avatar

    So what did Geoff think of the Subscriber rtv(now know as Town hall) on the topic of network structure?

  7. Amontillado Avatar

    Is there value in having a gameplay mechanic that sees players forcing the advancement of primitive aliens? Or is the current “leave them be or plunder them” gameplay sufficient?

    It very much depends on the scope of the game. It’s not dependent on the morality or validity of a ‘Prime Directive’ type policy but rather on what the general play goals of the game are.

    To have a mechanic where a player can advance a CIVILIZATION suggests a game that focuses on long term cultural and technological advancement. It also suggests a great deal of power in the hands of players.

    In games where the scope is more focused to the character level,it seems to me that such macro level systems are out of place. It would require systems and resources to a degree that the focus of the game would shift away from the hands on personal experience and instead be dedicated to these far reaching, societal changes. It could be fun, but it’s not appropriate to all games.

  8. Druid Avatar

    Your software won’t let me quote myself, but I wrote with instead of which after ”too all or nothing” and I can’t find a way to edit my post if such exists.

  9. Heremus Avatar

    I’m little sad over the Brexit… wish you good luck Lennon and hope to hear you from time to time again.

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