Guard Frequency Episode 261 | The Quivering Why-Vern

Written by First Verse Problems on . Posted in Podcasts

Cits and Civs, Captains and Commanders, you’re tuned to episode 261 of Guard Frequency — the best damn space sim podcast ever! This episode was recorded on May 17, 2019 and released for streaming and download on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at GuardFrequency.com

[Download this episode]
(Right click, Save As…)

This Week’s Schedule

  • Feedback Loop

Community Question(s)

  • How mad are you about the HUD colors in Elite Dangerous?
  • Do you plan on installing the hack just to change the your radar picture?

Patreon Backing

We love bringing you this show each week, but would also love your support? If you enjoy listening and want to contribute to us being the Best Damn Space Sim Podcast Ever, then go to our Patreon page and look at all of the rewards and loot you would be eligible to receive.

Join us in-game!

Priority One Productions are always looking for new team members that have a passion for space sims. Please know that all of our positions are volunteer, but we do offer a well known outlet for your work. If you have a particular skill that you believe could enhance our content, then send your contact information and experience along with a few writing samples to squawk@guardfrequency.com

You can also follow us on the social media sites! We’re on Facebook! Head over to www.facebook.com/guardfreq and say “hi!”, or check us out on Twitter via @guardfreq for details of our show times and other fun stuff.

Liked this episode? Totally hated it? Leave a comment below, Contact Us using our handy web form or leave your comments on the Roberts Space Industries forums!

Thanks to Ronald Jenkees for his permission to use his music in our show. Visit www.ronaldjenkees.com for more of his work! Enjoy the show!

–>

Trackback from your site.

Comments (6)

  • seannewboy

    |

    the jyf for this episode is just wrong.

    Wonderful show everyone.

    Reply

  • Pringle

    |

    Abandon, vapor,
    “Chris Roberts lie[s]” to backers
    Hashtag, spill the tea

    Reply

  • Ken from Chicago

    |

    Last time on Guard Frequency: The team is back in full force! Yay!

    First, yeah, I’m thinking there might be stuff about exploration in CitizenCon. In the 3 versions of my last feedback, I failed to respond to the actual Community Question. However during the week off, CIG did a, ahem … deep dive … into caves, tunnels, etc. That plus ruins, cityscapes and mineable treasure chests / nodes, I think they can make nice exploration demo.

    And yes, #BrianWasRight, it would be easy to demonstrate exploring new star systems by demoing jump point travel. It’s so easy, even a simpleton can and did tweet a video about how jump points might work.

    Second, I need to address your comments about my comments about your comments. Vaporware is not merely the “final” version never being released. Sorry, Henry, vaporware is about NO version ever being released. Not a beta, not an alpha, zero. For Star Citizen to be vaporware, at best we would have gotten is concept art, renderings, brochures, even cool cinematics and starship commercials—but nothing interactive. Look but don’t touch. Also, I’m sorry, Henry because I knew this was the obvious reply and in all 3 versions of my comments I failed to address them—and would have prevented you making that mistake. The fault is mine. #KenWasWrong.

    Third, Forbes recapping info that was already published and publishing it to a wider audience beyond gamers means it has no greater impact, if not less, impact that the deep dives Kotaku and Escapist did on CIG. It’s like publishing to Martians or Vulcans. People who aren’t going to play or invest in the game will have no impact on the game. Deep dives on CIG have a major effect on gamers because it’s Star Citizen not because of Forbes. #GeoffWasRight

    (Or to put it in legalese, the Forbes article is like lawyers arguing their case to people in the gallery when the judge and jury aren’t present aka it has little to no effect on the trial. Case closed.)

    Fourth, Henry said it best, the commercial success of Star Citizen—even compared to other crowdfunded games fronted by programming celebs, ala Shroud of Avatar, fronted by Richard Garriott, “Lord British” himself, or the other obvious counterpart, Elite Dangerous, fronted by David Braben—is proof of CIG’s marketing chief’s skills. #HenryWasRight

    (Also, in a Mom & Pop store, that asks you for money for goods or services, they don’t give you the life story of Mom who made the advertising signs and did the ad copy or Princess working in Shipping handling the goods or Junior doing the bookkeeping. CIG in 2012 was little more than a Mom & Pop, a little company that wanted to see if it could—and thanks, in part, to some sharp marketing, it did.)

    Fifth, and finally, no, I’m not trying to make Tony a “better” host. Allow me to digress. Depending on how soon you get to feedback on Friday, you might be able to catch the tail end of THE TONIGHT SHOW. It has a good host. But before Fallon, Leno, O’Brien, Leno and for a hot second, Rivers, there was Carson. Johnny Carson was a great talk show host who was a great interviewer and stand-up comedian. He told hilarious jokes that appealed to a wide audience—but he was just as funny when his jokes bombed, if not funnier. Tony is very much like Johnny Carson. He is a great host who is entertaining when he’s right but also when he’s wrong.

    More, Tony has the strength of character to face, even embrace criticism. If he were a lame, weak host? My critiques would never have seen the light of day. But wait, there’s more, Tony–like Abraham Lincoln, who picked a cabinet of sharp minds who didn’t always agree with him or each other (aka the “Team of Rivals”)—has a group of co-hosts, Geoff, Brian, Henry, Lennon, Justin, Ostron, et al., each awesome, each could take over hosting the show yet they aren’t sycophantic clones but have their own unique views and more than willing to disagree with Tony. That makes him not great host but an awesome host—and a decent fellow. So, sorry, making Tony “better” was not my intention. #TonyWasWrong. But even then, even when he’s wrong, #TonyIsRight for the show.

    So … why the critiques? To make the *show* better. Like frequencies that conflict and amplify each other, the interchange of ideas is the heart of Guard Frequency. That interchange keeps it lively, keeps it vibrant, fresh and new; that interchange of the hosts, the guests and the audience. I’m just doing my part. And I love the show we’re making.

    Reply

  • Ken from Chicago

    |

    [Let’s try it again, abridged version:]

    Last time on Guard Frequency: The team is back in full force! Yay!

    First, yes, especially after last week’s Inside Star Citizen’s, ahem, … deep dive … on caves, tunnels & sinkholes, (plus ruins, derelict ships, cityscapes and harvestable nodes / treasure chests, etc.) I think exploration will be part of the CitizenCon presentation. Also, showing exploring a new star system would be easy. Even a simpleton could—and did—demonstrate jump point travel. #BrianWasRight

    https://twitter.com/KenFromChicago/status/1132417658052370435

    Second, sorry, Henry, “vaporware” isn’t merely the final version of a product is never released, it’s not NOTHING, not a beta, alpha, ZERO demos are released. For Star Citizen to be vaporware, at best we would have gotten are images and non-interactive videos. Look but don’t touch. Also, I’m sorry, Henry, because I knew this was the obvious reply and I failed to address them—and would have prevented you making that mistake. The fault is mine. #KenWasWrong.

    Third, Forbes recapping info that was already published and publishing it to a wider audience beyond gamers means it has no greater impact, if not less, impact than the deep dives Kotaku and Escapist did on CIG. It’s like publishing to Martians. People who aren’t going to play or invest in the game will have no impact on the game. Deep dives on CIG have a major effect on players because it’s Star Citizen not because of Forbes. #GeoffWasRight

    (Or to put it in legalese, the Forbes article is like lawyers arguing their case to people in the gallery when the judge and jury aren’t present aka it has little to no effect on the trial. Case closed.)

    Fourth, Henry said it best, the commercial success of Star Citizen—even compared to other crowdfunded games fronted by programming celebs, ala Shroud of Avatar, fronted by Richard Garriott, “Lord British” himself, or the other obvious counterpart, Elite Dangerous, fronted by David Braben—is proof of CIG’s marketing chief’s skills. #HenryWasRight

    (Also, in a Mom & Pop store, that asks you for money for goods or services, they don’t give you the life story relatives hired. CIG in 2012 was little more than a Mom & Pop company.)

    Finally, no, I’m not trying to make Tony a “better” host. Allow me to digress. Depending on how soon get to feedback on Friday, you might be able to catch the tail end of THE TONIGHT SHOW. It has a good host. But before Fallon, Leno, O’Brien, Leno and for a hot second, Rivers, there was Carson. Johnny Carson was a great talk show host who was a great interviewer and stand-up comedian. He told hilarious jokes that appealed to a wide audience—but he was just as funny when his jokes bombed, if not funnier. Tony is very much like Johnny Carson. He is a great host who is entertaining when he’s right but also when he’s wrong. More, Tony has the strength of character to face, even embrace criticism. A lame, weak host? My critiques would never have seen the light of day.

    But wait, there’s more, Tony–like Abraham Lincoln, who picked a cabinet of sharp minds who didn’t always agree with him or each other (aka the “Team of Rivals”)—has a group of co-hosts, Geoff, Brian, Henry, Lennon, Justin, Ostron, et al., each awesome, each could take over hosting the show yet they aren’t sycophantic clones but have their own unique views and more than willing to disagree with Tony. That makes him not great host but an awesome host—and a decent fellow. So, sorry, #TonyWasWrong. But even when wrong, #TonyIsRight for the show.

    So, why the critiques? To make the show better. Like frequencies that conflict and amplify each other, the interchange of ideas is the heart of Guard Frequency. That interchange keeps it lively, keeps it vibrant, fresh and new; that interchange of the hosts, the guests and the audience. As for me? I love the show we’re making.

    Reply

  • Ken from Chicago

    |

    [Let’s try it again, abridged version:]

    Last time on Guard Frequency: The team is back in full force! Yay!

    First, yes, especially after last week’s Inside Star Citizen’s, ahem, … deep dive … on caves, tunnels & sinkholes, (plus ruins, derelict ships, cityscapes and harvestable nodes / treasure chests, etc.) I think exploration will be part of the CitizenCon presentation. Also, showing exploring a new star system would be easy. Even a simpleton could—and did—demonstrate jump point travel. #BrianWasRight

    https://twitter.com/KenFromChicago/status/1132417658052370435

    Second, sorry, Henry, “vaporware” isn’t merely the final version of a product is never released, it’s not NOTHING, not a beta, alpha, ZERO demos are released. For Star Citizen to be vaporware, at best we would have gotten are images and non-interactive videos. Look but don’t touch. Also, I’m sorry, Henry, because I knew this was the obvious reply and I failed to address it—and would have prevented you making that mistake. The fault is mine. #KenWasWrong.

    Third, Forbes recapping info that was already published and publishing it to a wider audience beyond gamers means it has no greater impact, if not less, impact than the deep dives Kotaku and Escapist did on CIG. It’s like publishing to Martians. People who aren’t going to play or invest in the game will have no impact on the game. Deep dives on CIG have a major effect on players because it’s Star Citizen not because of Forbes. #GeoffWasRight

    (Or to put it in legalese, the Forbes article is like lawyers arguing their case to people in the gallery when the judge and jury aren’t present aka it has little to no effect on the trial. Case closed.)

    Fourth, Henry said it best, the commercial success of Star Citizen—even compared to other crowdfunded games fronted by programming celebs, ala Shroud of Avatar, fronted by Richard Garriott, “Lord British” himself, or the other obvious counterpart, Elite Dangerous, fronted by David Braben—is proof of CIG’s marketing chief’s skills. #HenryWasRight

    (Also, in a Mom & Pop store, that asks you for money for goods or services, they don’t give you the life story relatives hired. CIG in 2012 was little more than a Mom & Pop company.)

    Finally, no, I’m not trying to make Tony a “better” host. Allow me to digress. Depending on how soon get to feedback on Friday, you might be able to catch the tail end of THE TONIGHT SHOW. It has a good host. But before Fallon, Leno, O’Brien, Leno and for a hot second, Rivers, there was Carson. Johnny Carson was a great talk show host who was a great interviewer and stand-up comedian. He told hilarious jokes that appealed to a wide audience—but he was just as funny when his jokes bombed, if not funnier. Tony is very much like Johnny Carson. He is a great host who is entertaining when he’s right but also when he’s wrong. More, Tony has the strength of character to face, even embrace criticism. A lame, weak host? My critiques would never have seen the light of day.

    But wait, there’s more, Tony–like Abraham Lincoln, who picked a cabinet of sharp minds who didn’t always agree with him or each other (aka the “Team of Rivals”)—has a group of co-hosts, Geoff, Brian, Henry, Lennon, Justin, Ostron, et al., each awesome, each could take over hosting the show yet they aren’t sycophantic clones but have their own unique views and more than willing to disagree with Tony. That makes him not great host but an awesome host—and a decent fellow. So, sorry, #TonyWasWrong. But even when wrong, #TonyIsRight for the show.

    So, why the critiques? To make the show better. Like frequencies that conflict and amplify each other, the interchange of ideas is the heart of Guard Frequency. That interchange keeps it lively, keeps it vibrant, fresh and new; that interchange of the hosts, the guests and the audience. As for me? I love the show we’re making.

    Reply

  • Ken from Chicago

    |

    [Okay, this time for sure, it’s really abridged from 750 to 450 words, (unlike the previous 650 words):]

    Last time on Guard Frequency: The team is back in full force! Yay!

    First, yes, especially after last week’s Inside Star Citizen’s, ahem, … deep dive … on caves, tunnels & sinkholes, (plus ruins, derelict ships, cityscapes and harvestable nodes / treasure chests, etc.) I think exploration will be part of the CitizenCon presentation. Also, showing exploring a new star system would be easy. Even a simpleton could—and did—demonstrate jump point travel. #BrianWasRight

    Second, software “vaporware” means no beta, no alpha, no demo is released, maybe images or videos but nothing interactive. Look but don’t touch. I’m sorry, Henry, because I knew this was the obvious reply and I failed to address them—and would have prevented you making that mistake. The fault is mine. #KenWasWrong.

    Third, the Forbes article publishing to an audience beyond gamers means it has no greater impact, if not less, impact than Kotaku’s & Escapist’s deep dives on CIG. People who aren’t going to play or invest in the game will have no impact on the game. For players, the impact is due to it being Star Citizen not because of Forbes. #GeoffWasRight

    Fourth, Henry said it best, Star Citizen’s massive success—vs other crowdfunded games fronted by gaming celebs, ala Shroud of Avatar & Richard Garriott, “Lord British” himself, or Elite Dangerous & David Braben—is proof of CIG’s marketing chief’s skills. #HenryWasRight

    (Also, in a Mom & Pop store, they don’t give you the life story relatives hired. CIG in 2012 was little more than a Mom & Pop company.)

    Finally, no, I’m not trying to make Tony a “better” host. Allow me to digress. Tony is very much like Johnny Carson, who was entertaining when the joke worked or bombed. Tony is a great host who is entertaining when he’s right or wrong. More, Tony has the strength of character to face, even embrace criticism. Like Abraham Lincoln, who picked a sharp, but often conflicting, “Team of Rivals”, for his cabinet, Tony has had a group of co-hosts, Geoff, Brian, Henry, Lennon, Justin, Ostron, et al., each awesome, each could take over hosting the show yet have their own views–and more than willing to disagree with Tony. That makes him not great host but an awesome host—and a decent fellow. So, sorry, #TonyWasWrong. But even when wrong, #TonyIsRight for the show.

    So then why the critiques? To make the show better. Like frequencies that conflict and amplify each other, the interchange of ideas of hosts, guests and the audience that is the heart of Guard Frequency. As for me? I love the show we’re making.

    Reply

Leave a comment